While I am not an avid follower of Caine, Meyer or Beth Moore, the times I have seen them, their husbands were in the audience (and their travel schedules referenced). However, I see the followers of this site not as such. Continue reading. 30 And he would not: but went and cast him into prison, till he should pay the debt. God bless. Paul ratchets up the rhetoric when facing down serious error coming from Hymenaeus and Alexander: Some have rejected and suffered shipwreck in regard to their faith. Have the fruit of the Spirit in your marriage. Spoke at Bethel Church, delivered there a false testimony and strongly unbiblical teachings. Christine Caine, sexually abused but saved and freed in Jesus. It is for God to judge and not for people. I think thats where it got into me from a very young age, thinking, what is wrong with me?, there must be something wrong with me. We are supposed to be out there winning people to Christ the end time is near. It is strictly forbidden by God for a woman to preach/teach when there are believers gathered to worship, as 1 Timothy 2 clearly states. 10 Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven. Create Yours. Worse, she enjoys teaching young women to step into leadership roles that scripture forbids and is unashamed to say so. When Christians call out false teachings, teachers and practices theyre doing what is commanded in scripture, or havent you read how you are to deal with those that say theyre teachers, but their not? Thank you, Amy, for cleaning up that mess. Christine Caine engages in New Age practices condemned in the Bible, Christine Caineusurps male authority and rebels against the clear word of the Bible, enjoys teaching young women to step into leadership roles that scripture forbids. Somehow I doubt theres much of that going on. Pray for wisdom and for Jesus to control your anger. I think we have to be careful here. The shame and guilt of childhood sexual abuse hasn't stopped Christine Caine from sharing the love of Jesus with people across the world. Why dont you pick up scripture and compare what she says to what the word of God says? Well said. That fact indicates that false teaching is just as much a disciplinable offense as sexual immorality. Hope 103.2 will be ready to celebrate what's good in society and culture. When a person, especially one claiming to be a Christian, however, takes the hard-fought life story and lessons of another and puts them in two of her books as her own without any source attribution, there is something very, very wrong in that persons life. There are no super-Christians, theres an amazing God. The only teachers whom the church supports are those whose teaching is in accordance with the standard of divine truth (3 John 8). . Their two hearts beat as one. 19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven. Blessings. Purpose Driven Galatians 1:8-9. I know I am using a generalized context, as some would argue that ministering is different then preaching or teaching. Ukrainian People Living in Hope Despite Worsening Crisis, Chaplains Helping with Flood Disaster Recovery, How I Survived My Small Business Being Smashed By Floods and Pandemic, Living and Dying For Your Faith This Easter, Whats Important in My Life? Do you want the standard canned answer I get? Shame eats away at the core of who we are. In conclusion, whats the point of confronting false teachers? . . Last week, we released a new episode of our podcast, Pardon the Mess, with Christine Caine as the featured guest. Neither should you. IT IS EXTREMELY COSTLY TO BE AN AUTHENTIC FOLLOWER OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST. You will find multiple examples of Christine Caine teaching this way in the Additional Resources section at the end of this article. He takes the trials and tests and turns them into a testimony.". Paul has nothing remotely nice to say about those to purport to speak for Christ. Pastors have a responsibility to oppose false teaching whenever it arises. Recalcitrance in the face of correction is dangerous, and it is why the apostles would often apply some of the most bone-chilling descriptors to unrepentant false teachers. So I grew up feeling a lot of rejection, shame, insecurity, fear, and anger. We must be willing to boldly take a stand for the truth of the gospel of Jesus Christ by pointing out the ravenous wolves that Paul warned us would be coming, and noware here: I was honored when my former boss (who is male) told me that seeing the way I live my life inspired him to get back into his Bible and find a church for his family, as he had walked away from his faith after 12 frustrating years of Catholic school. At the beginning of the class, and many of the students were skeptical. "There was a lot at stake for me. Surely not the Christ of scripture, for we come to the Father only through Him, without the Son theres no salvation, you cant earn it, work for it, it is an undeserved gift, we cant ever repay. 4. Joel Osteen & Oprah partners Joel promotes her LIFECLASS IAM Little Gods doctorine. Pastrix Christine Caine from hereticalHillsong ChurchAustraliais a teacher that the serious Christian should steer clear of. Heck, Christine taught me to get more diligent about making disciples and you found a way to completely trash that. Word of Faith Oh what horror! I want us all to make it to the finish line. Simon the Magician tired to grab the power of the Spirit the wrong way and he was cursed for it. All poster children of false teachers! Hagin (19172003) believed that it is Gods will that believers would always be in good health, financially successful, and happy. We did a lot of hard work before we got married, which has meant a lot less friction, because all those big conversations about purpose, travelling, doing whatever Jesus called us to do, family life and how that would look were done before we got married. Paul says: one thing I do: forgetting what is behind and straining towards what is ahead, I press on (Philippians 3:13-14). Am I talking like this? As we came closer to the time of Christ, mankind in its rebellious teenage years, we had the lessons of the prophets. You seem to have sincere concerns, so what does anonymously posting about them online do? Shun them, having nothing to do with them. Yet hers is no pretty, polished story, and the frankness with which she addresses her own shortcomings, doubts and fears makes it, and her exhortation to keep chasing after the kingdom of God, even more compelling. Currently you have JavaScript disabled. Your pastor is correct, your self worth, your weight and you fiscal condition has nothing to do with the saving Gospels, a good gym with good instructors, a good financial planner will do the same, the issue is whether Cain and Meyer handle scripture correctly, they dont, they have also gone beyond the mandate of the qualifications to be a teacher. If the message they are preaching are not the message of the True Gospel of Jesus Christ, they are not preaching truth and therefore are not bound by the rules for taking aside someone in the church. Oh, but in those same few years, I had attended plenty of Bible conferences and classes and had plenty to anonymously post about other people and their ministry on message boards! I also hope this person finds truth and happiness in God and in his word. We strive to bring His word to people! God will be our judge! If its a false doctrine, its a false doctrine, no matter you feelings about it. Christine Caine usurps male authority and rebels against the clear word of the Bible. God uses different people to reach the lost because every lost person is different. Paul has a word to those who are pastors and who aspire to be a pastor. Christine heads the organisation A21, rescuing young women from sexual slavery and abuse, and helping them to build a new sense of their value and worth. If you know scripture you could in an instance see where Christine Caine is wrong. Its a Hollywood script! 2:24-25). Your words are so wise Alison Jones: I am a Christian living in South Wales, UK, and ha Annie G.: It is not wrong to consecrate a day for the Lord, Greg: I agree. Drive by poster, she would never back up her statement with scripture, as it would show the lack of discernment and ignorance of those that follow Copeland, Hagin, Osteen, Meyer and every other wolf that teaches that abomination. Catholicism (RCC) There have been hundreds of girls rescued, and dozens of traffickers thrown in jail. Reading the context as to the time that Timothy was written, women then were NOT allowed to be nor were they educated and that is WHY they were not supposed to teach Gods word. Do you think theres a lack of urgency in Western Christianity, because were too comfortable? At one point, 24 years ago, holding a toilet brush, I laughed out loud and thought, Wow, this is not what I thought ministry would look like. Is it helping these teachers repent? And I wont get into the Catholic church and its covering up of abuse, or twisting of scripture to idolize the Pope and Mary. Zip it!! Having worked with A21, which is a top flight global organization fighting human trafficking, and seeing that the common thread in this and other articles criticizing Caine was the fact that she dares to preach to menwhile ignoring the prophetesses and judges in the Bible that God choseI was inclined to support her. Yoga. We think discipleship is: Im going to be a better version of me, Gods going to give me whatever I want, Im going to live my best life now. Jakes conferences, Joel Osteen conferences, Bethel conferences, preaching at Perry Nobles church, Robert Morris church and conferences, Rick Warrens church, and Steven Furticks church and conferences. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple., The word mark is from (skopeo) which means to look at, behold, watch, contemplate; which is used metaphorically of looking to. It is used (Romans 16:17) of a warning against those who cause divisions, and in (Philippians 3:17) of observing those who walk uprightly that Christians might choose to walk after the example of the apostle and his fellow workers. Emma is a trustee for Christian festival Creation Fest and lives in Cornwall with her husband and two teenage daughters. She was approached by a woman citing Timothy, and that she was in the wrong and my daughter said, Well I have a hard time believing that Jesus would disallow my entrance into heaven for dedicating my life to HIS word and for bring people to HIM. Seriously wake up you people who instead of spewing hatred for people, love and let JESUS make the judgements. She is a product of, has held leadership positions at, and is closely affiliated with Hillsong, which is, undeniably, a Word of Faith church. Christine is a regular contributor to the Hillsong blog page, the Hillsong web site maintains a bio page on her, and she is a regularly featured speaker at Hillsongs Colour Conference for women and other Hillsong events. Occult Sorcery We extend that respect to all First Nations peoples. I site that purposes to tear down people that are of the faith. I only speak on my personal experiences, what I have read, what I have heard, what I have been taught, and what interactions I participated in. Maybe you should stop thinking in the us v. them scenario. Mans heart is deceitful, and beyond cure..Jeremiah 17:9. In the years since, youve been pretty busy. I write this as a Baptist, and so I would argue that the excommunication is a congregational responsibility and not something that pastors can impose alone (e.g., 1 Cor. Read out White Paper on the Word of Faith Movement, Christine Caine, Complementarianism, Elizabeth Prata, Heresy, Hillsong Church, Joyce Meyer, New Age Movement, Occult, Sin, spirituality, Word of Faith. 18 At the same time came the disciples unto Jesus, saying, Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven? When I tore my ACL while downhill skiing, the pain was excruciating, but nothing like the physical therapy afterward. I leave what doesnt line up with God to God to deal with. Christine shares how she struggled with what happened to her and how her faith helped her overcome the shame and worthlessness she felt for so many years. I grew up a Catholic and they spend so much time worshiping idols, I barely knew anything about Christ. We read that stuff, but I dont know if we really believe it. When you question someones salvation, you are questioning their citizenship in heaven. Husbands arent overseeing their wives writings and teachings, and any attention that they pay to their wives work is not through the lens of Scripture. I just remember holding that toilet brush and doing it as unto God with a passion. Im truly confused and wondering. - Christine Caine. What Im reading are a whole bunch of prideful Im SO right and they are SO wrong! posts that arent helping anyone but perhaps the ego of the posters. He wasn't helping me. Anti-trafficking work, church planting, womens networks, speaking, writing is there any part of life that you dont want to tackle? The apostle Paul says that willingness to engage this kind of controversy is a qualification for office: He must hold fast the faithful word which is in accordance with the teaching, that he may be able both to exhort in sound doctrine and to refute those who contradict (Titus 1:9). It appears to me that this would pretty much demand absolute avoidance. Elizabeth Prata of The End Times lays out six reasons why Caine must be avoided like the plague. I think I can share a testimony now because I have ongoing victory in this area.. As I started to serve in youth ministry in my mid-20s, I realized I was going to have to deal with the darkness in my own life before I could shed light on anybody else's. I know Im glad Manny and Amy dont have a heaven or hell to put people in, because it sounds like theyd throw Lydia and Priscilla in. So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitanes, which thing I hate. Faith? If any human being, or even an angel from heaven, preaches another gospel (another of a different kind), Paul prays that he should be accursed. Thank you. So its more about our faith levels than our ability is that right? 107 quotes from Christine Caine: 'Sometimes when you're in a dark place you think you've been buried, but you've actually been planted.', 'God is able to take the mess of our past and turn it into a message. Apollos was a man mighty in the scriptures who taught accurately about Jesus but who nevertheless was only familiar with Johns baptism. 22Many will say to Me on that day, Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles? 23Then I will tell them plainly, I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness., Man was made in Gods image. In 2016, Christian author Carey Scott was the victim of plagiarism by a major celebrityinternational speaker and evangelist Christine Caine. I didn't really understand what was going on. They make themselves rich by promising you the same. How did they respond? LOL! Evangelist Christine Caines 60-Second Testimony. Now hes using me to help rescue others. Just love God, love people, love each other. The key issue is how we respond to correction. There are several women in the Bible that also were in the ministry to proclaim the gospel. You obviously have no clue what it is you are talking about and have never heard any of these people speak. Keep in scriptures, you might find better things to do than this. A pastor cant be the kind of guy who cant accept an apology or recognize repentance when he sees it. But it should also be motivated by a desire to see false teachers come to repentance and faith. Christine Caine is a member-leader in a doctrinally heretical word-faith church. Contemplative Prayer Discernment People who had lost all of their hair My heart broke for them. Jehovahs Witnesses You cant add or take away from the gospel and thats what they are doing. Why Cant Us Men Tell Each Other How We Feel. 7:8 & 28), in order to devote whole-hearted service to God without distraction or obligation of the family. You guys sound more like a Witch Hunt than Christians bad example for Christianity. Wow, look at all the responses against this, we need to follow what the scriptures say not twist them around, Thank you for the warning, I was caught up in these heretical teachers and I am so happy God gave me discernment and showed me that these people are not teaching but misleading thousands straight to hell. Priscilla also led her household in the making of disciples. You have something against the Passion Conference too..Wowww! Contact Us. Youll find her corrupt theology lacking. "Chris, you have cancer." Not quite the words I was expecting to hear when I landed in Sydney, Australia, for our annual Hillsong conference on June 27 this year. My life was as far away from God at that point as you could imagine [but] I went into this seminar, and this dude speaks the gospel in a way that was just so profound to me. Esther was at that place and at that time fulfilling Gods purpose to save the Jews, neither Caine nor Meyers are here to save Gods people. What shall we do if we see a sister following these false teachers? Instead of this kind of criticism, you should do as they do, pick a subject on your experiences, teach & encourage pole to walk in Jesus Christ. . I feel like its almost life and death in this hour. Christ said, They will know you by your love for one another., not differences. I dont see you recommending ANYONE else. He healed my body. Compassion overwhelmed me, and I knew why I was there. Maybe you should try reading the word again. Written by Christian Movies. Paul is adamant that no change can be introduced into the apostolic gospel. Christine Caine is the founder of A21, an international anti-human trafficking organization, and Propel, a woman's organization dedicated to helping women realize their purpose, passion and potential. Manny, I dont want to jump too far into your conversation with someone else, but Id like to lovingly bring something to your attention. 31 So when his fellowservants saw what was done, they were very sorry, and came and told unto their lord all that was done. One taps you on the shoulder when youre doing something wrong, the other tells you that you are, inherently, wrong. Amy, I am all for lovingly correcting others or discerning scriptures. Amen (I Timothy 6:20-21). 13 And if so be that he find it, verily I say unto you, he rejoiceth more of that sheep, than of the ninety and nine which went not astray. Thank you Karen for speaking the TRUTH! don't embrace the pain of emotional or spiritual recovery because there is pain. Christine Caine | (Photo: ChristineCain.com). Chris Rosebrough Reviews Christine Caine at Passion 2015 Conference. It's taken her a lifetime, but world-travelling preacher, author and rescuer of trafficking victims, Christine Caine, is finally free from shame. Christine Caine: Fix Your Eyes on Jesus For the New Year, Christine Caine shares a word of encouragement to help you grow in your faith. John says that the congregation has a responsibility to refuse all support for such teachers. Try the Catholic Church if you want truth! Deuteronomy 32:30 says: One will put 1,000 to flight, two will put 10,000 to flight. For me, love would not have been enough to get married. 12:18). ~ Christine Caine. 01743091) with two fully-owned trading subsidiaries: Premier Christian Communications Ltd (no. Referencing Hebrews 6 she tells me, It doesnt matter if youre a global evangelist or somebody that nobody knows. Joyce Meyer brought me closer to my walk with JESUS and my daughter is going into ministry to teach people about Jesus and HIS LOVE for his people! How many people has the author of this article rescued from slavery? loads of accusations with no documentation.. When learning we have a responsibility to also study and pray with diligence and seek Gods will not blindly follow the teachings of any man or woman. In retrospect, Caine says she had to endure much despair in order to have a story of healing but it was because she ended up learning a lesson she thought she already knew. Waiting rooms are waiting for us.". These clowns do not preach the word of God. God bless you, may He open your eyes to His truth, and may He be a lamp unto your feet! 8 Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire. Christine Caineusurps male authority and rebels against the clear word of the Bible I and pray that evil will not flourish. Who will replace retiring Rick Warren at Saddlebacks Helm? Local: 704-401-2432 Paul commands Titus and the believers in Crete to distance themselves from false teachers, As for a person who stirs up division, after warning him once and then twice, have nothing more to do with him (Titus 3:10). You meaning taking the word for WHAT IT IS and SPEAKING AND FOLLOWING IT BY FAITH!!?? As someone said, i too am glad it is the Father who will be judging us all He alone can see the intentions of our heart. #Past #Trials #Tests "Often the very things that you think have disqualified you are the ones that qualify you to do what God has . So here I am! I thought making disciples was a command of Christwhy is it bad I was called to do that? There is some speculation regarding Lydias social status. 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